Devil: So we traded back from No. 5 to No. 17 to No. 19 to No. 21 to take a center. This is a typical Browns move. Alex Mack wasn't a huge need and he definitely wasn't the best player on the board. Another stupid move by a struggling franchise.

Angel: You're right, center wasn't a huge need, but it was a need. Hank Fraley is aging and he isn't a top-tier center anyway. Looking at this from a long-term perspective, I think the name of the game this year was quantity. The Browns accomplished that. They got 10 players out of a draft when we only had five picks going in. They also got three or four starters out of this draft. (Kenyon Coleman, Abram Elam, Mack, and possibly Brian Robiskie)

Devil: Typical Browns fan reaction. Coleman adds depth, Elam is OK, they already have a serviceable center, and Robiskie is a second-tier possession receiver. You failed to mention that they took Mohamed Massaquoi. The knock on him is he drops too many balls. Don't we already have a receiver who drops the ball too much?

Angel: First, defensive line depth is not a bad thing. Corey Williams is not a 3-4 defensive end and Coleman is. Elam will be our starter at free safety and do a good job. He is a local guy from Kent State and a capable player in the secondary. Second, the bottom line is the Browns needed wide receivers. Donte Stallworth and Joe Jurevicius are gone, Syndric Steptoe is a practice squad guy, at best, and there is almost no chance the Browns resign Braylon Edwards in 2010. This is a long-term process that is going to take a couple of seasons. Besides, Massaquoi couldn't have been that bad if he played in 51 games for Georgia, starting 36.

Devil: So the Browns got decent receivers, that doesn't help the defense. What do you need to be successful in the 3-4 defense?

Angel: I know where you are going with this, but I'll play along. You need linebackers.

Devil: And ... we took a project guy from Hawaii who I have never even heard of, I'm sure he is going to love playing in Cleveland in November and December. And we followed that up by taking the under sized back up linebacker at USC.

Angel:  First of all, the player from Hawaii is David Veikune and he could be the type of guy the Browns are looking for. Mangini has said that he wants football players and this guy fits the bill. He has a high motor and plays aggressive. I agree that he could fall into the project category, but he can definitely help on special teams right away. As for USC's Kaluka Maiava, he could be the steal of the draft. He was third on USC in tackles last year with 66 and eight for a loss. He was also the defensive MVP for the Rose Bowl last year against Penn State, a game where Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews and Rey Maualuga all played. I think Maualuga would have been a better pick in the second round, but Maiava could make an impact as a fourth-round selection. The draft is all about value and Maiava could be a great value in round four.

Devil: Wow, it seems like you are really trying to convince yourself that this was a good draft. Cleveland got two linebackers that project as special team players, which means they are planning to start Kamerion Wimbley, D'Qwell Jackson, Eric Barton and David Bowens at linebacker. Not one of those players is an impact player. Bowens had four sacks last year, the is the same as Wimbley. None of these guys make plays in the backfield. Look for another season of giving up more than 150 yards rushing a game and not pressuring the quarterback. I'm psyched.

Angel: Like I said before, this team cannot be fixed in one offseason. This is a long-term plan. You are looking at the defense, where I will agree with you, the Browns help. But you are not bringing up the fact that Mack will make them a better running team, in turn chewing up more clock and keeping the defense fresh by having less three and outs. You also didn't mention the fact that the Browns went an NFL record 24 consecutive quarters without an offensive touchdown. They needed help on offense, too, and Mangini and Kokinis thought that Robiskie and Massaquoi were the best value on the board to help the team.

Devil: So are you accepting the fact that the Cleveland Browns are in full-blown rebuild mode and don't have a chance to win in 2009?

Angel: There's always a chance. The schedule is pretty soft from the looks of it, so I could see winning six to eight games

Devil: Try three or four games. Mack is the only player that can help right away.

Angel: Finally, what about James Davis? He was a solid four-year back that finished his career at Clemson with almost 3,900 yards and 47 touchdowns. I like him to contribute this year. With Jamal Lewis, Jerome Harrison and Davis I look for the Browns to have a good rushing attack behind a very good offensive line. If Edwards plays — which he will because it is a contract year and he wants to get paid — and Robiskie develops , the Browns could have an above-average offense. That is, if Derek Anderson doesn't get the starting nod.

Devil: There is a reason Davis went in the sixth round, he isn't that good. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid. There are a lot of ifs in that scenario and ifs don't usually work out for the Browns. At least we can agree on one thing, Anderson should not start for this team.

I'll see you again for training camp when the circus really begins.