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By Don Delco
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Imaging what could have been:
2009 Draft first pick: Orakpo!! OLB
2009 second pick: Maualuga ILB
!!!!! Does anyone realize this or is it just me??
Or does it really even matter know that no one is held accountable for this bone-head decision(s)...??
The CZAR watches and listens intently but remains silent.
What is the CZAR thinking?
Long live the CZAR!
Hey sipe:
Make sure you are in gear before you step on the accelerator. Other wise you will blow a head gasket !!!
Imagine what WILL be next year with future Pro-Bowl Mack at center, Mass WR and Roth OLB PLUS about $60 MILLION saved for FA's (Clady anyone?)
How can you give Heiden and Steptoe an INC. when they played in games but give Stallworth an F even though he didn't play a down.
like the guy said, dude is on house arrest for manslaughter. that gets an F in my book at least.
If the receivers been more of a factor, imagine how much more of an impact Evan Moore would have had.
These rankings are terrible to say the least. Massaquoi receives a "B-" while Evan Moore cruises to a "B"? Mass was fairly consistent all year and had a shot at 1,000 yards before Jerome Harrison decided to go on a solo stampede the last four games. Also, since when is less than 200 yards in a season above average? Tight end or not this isn't a good receiving total season unless you're a fullback. Granted he did not play an entire season, but the grade was still too high. Does he have potential? Of course. Is he the next Jason Witten? Probably not. Next up this Vincent Jackson "scenario" is incorrectly labeled. "Dream fantasy player addition" is more accurate. First, I've read nothing about Jackson's pending free agency. Second, (let's set the scenario since that's the word of choice here) if you're Vincent Jackson coming off a good season with a playoff team in sunny southern California, does Cleveland even cross your mind? No, not in this decade or the last. And for good measure you insultingly put "if he doesn't cost too much" as if any top name WR is coming to Cleveland at a bargain price because he wants to be around when the Browns right their ship. Lastly, do some research on Mangini before you say what he wants or does not want. He does indeed like tight ends that can catch. Dustin Keller was drafted in the first round to be his pass catching tight end in New York.
If Mangini wants pass-catching tight ends why did he sign Robert Royal? Or Greg Estandia? Michael Gains? Royal dropped passes. Gains and Estandia were not looked upon as weapons in the "passing" game. If he is so in love with pass catching TEs, why ship Kellen Winslow?
Regarding Jackson: The old and cliched "this is Cleveland" argument? These are big boys, well paid big boys, who will play where they are paid and felt respected.
"If he doesn't cost too much" does take into account that you are going to have to pay him. Do you want to break the bank on a WR? No, but if the price is fair for both parties (re: doesn't cost too much) go for it.
Speaking of research, Vincent Jackson is the top free agent listed on Scout.com. You're telling me a guy with his size and his numbers would not be a legitimate option for the Browns No. 1 receiver?
Evan Moore was a pleasant surprise who surpassed everyone's expectations and thus he received a B.
Massaquoi was a fine, fine player, but a B- for a second-round player who was solid, but not incredible for the Browns is just. Fairly consistent? What does that even mean. His numbers were OK, but too many games were he was non-existent, especially after he became the Browns' No. 1 receiver once Braylon was traded.
BROWNS 2010 Checklist
1. Get a new O.C.
2. Put Rubin at NT, Robaire and (Peters) at DE. OLB's Wimbley and Roth, ILB's D'Qwell and (McClain).
3. Free agency- WR (Owens, or Brandon Marshall). We could trade Quinn, and Williams for Marshall straight up. QB (McNabb, trade Rogers and DA with a 2011 compensatory pick.) He's 33, he won't be as expensive as people think.
4. Draft-1st round ILB McClain, ALA.
2nd round CB Arenas, ALA.
3rd round RT Sam Young, ND and SS Kam Chancellor, VT.
4th Round LG John Jerry, MISS.
5th round DE Corey Peters, KEN and CB Brian Jackson, OK and FS Kurt Coleman, OSU.
6th round RG Brandon Carter, Texas Tech and QB Ryan Perrilloux, JAX.
7th round RB Blount, ORE.
5. Pay Josh Cribbs!!!! Re-sign D'Qwell Jackson, Jerome Harrison, Lawrence Vickers, Evan Moore and Matt Roth.
The Browns need to go after Anquan Boldin VERRRY hard, verrry soon into this offseason. Having checked the list of UFA's, asied from Vin Jackson (who I can't see leaving San Diego), there just isn't much in the way of true #1 WR talent out there (and don't give me the 'what about Miles Austin' question. Really? Miles Austin? Just not proven enuff in my eyes, to this point.)
No, the Browns really need a true #1 receiver and it is going to have to come via trade. Boldin makes sense, and the Ravens are going to come knocking on Arizona's door, too, so the Browns with their advantage in having lots of draft picks, need to get serious and make this happen. Is what I believe, but I've been gone a while now, maybe it is just me but I am not seeing Massaquoi as a real #1 yet, but yea, a solid potential #2 WR for the Browns, who will also need to be sure they can continue developing Evan Moore, Robiskie and Stuckey, or else the depth, even with Boldin, will be an issue. Go Browns~! I'm always watching...
Back at you Don...
The Robert Royal signing I will concede wasn't a very good one, and I am aware he is not known as a catching tight end. However, the expectations when he was signed were to shore up the run blocking and catch the occasional pass. Obviously the idea didn't pan out. In Mangini's defense (I'm typing this via blackberry so I cannot do the research on the particulars) I don't believe that any other team added a viable tight end receiving threat last off season either (except Tampa). This probably means that there weren’t any available. So, you cannot fault Mangini for making the decision he did with the talent available. As for why he shipped Kellen down the coast, it had nothing to do with his on the field capabilities and more to do with his mouth and knee issues. Ask yourself this: if Kellen was closer to a model citizen and his knee issues were of less severe, is he still a Brown? Yes, More than likely. I personally hated to see him go, but having a better understanding of Magini now I know he wouldn't have fit.
I'm not aiming to use a cliché' with the "this is Cleveland" argument. Simply laying out the scenario. I do agree that players will sign where they are paid and feel respected. Vincent Jackson coming to Cleveland seems to be a reach though. In my opinion the price will come nowhere near reasonable. With his age, skill set, and track record he will probably command over $45m over the life of a contract this offseason. This could be extremely off as I am no agent, nor do I know what the FA climate will be like this year. Anything over $30m for a WR at this stage of our building process would be a waste. I have never bought in hugely to the idea of a "No. 1 WR". There are only so many Randy Moss' and Steve Smiths out there. Just put 4 guys that can run good routes and catch the ball out there because when your No. 1 gets shut down, then what?
I also agree that Evan Moore was a pleasant surprise and hope he's around for next year. Where I still disagree is his grade. A "B" grade for any receiver on an offense that put up 2200 passing yards in a season (unless he put up 1,000) is akin to allowing a GED class valedictorian into Stanford. The best grade any individual player should receive after a (failing) 5-11 season is "C" (Cribbs excluded). You are what your record says you are. Can there be bright spots on a losing team? Absolutely. But they aren't shining bright enough if the record is what it is.
My argument for Massaquoi was simply that he had a better overall season at WR than Moore did at tight end (even given the small sample size). He too, should not be rated a "B". Oh and what I meant by "fairly consistent" was that more often than not Massaquoi stepped up when called upon.
Might wanna fix Steptoe's injury. "Labium" is a body part, but almost assuredly not one that Steptoe possesses. Try "labrum."